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lstar.gif (869 bytes)Interview: Cindy Hill (Progressive) for the AG for the State of Vermontlstar.gif (869 bytes)

By: Ky Starr 

1.  The differences between you and your opponent?

            A Life-Long History of Activism and Public Advocacy

            I have been a lifelong activist on environmental and social issues, and have fifteen years of legal experience as a public advocate.  My clients include indigent criminal defendants, not-for-profit environmental organizations and sportsmen’s clubs, organizations supporting women’s reproductive health services, farmers and small business owners.  I’ve served on numerous not-for-profit boards, served on the Middlebury Board of Selectmen, and provided volunteer legal services to countless organizations and individuals in need of help.  I’ve taught law at Greenfield Community College and Elms College and often speak to high school classes and service organizations about legal matters

            An Emphasis on Justice and Due Process, not on Letting Ends Justify Means

            Justice is not an end, it is a process — a process which is fair and which respects the human dignity of all parties.  I have always held that, as long as the process was fair, I can live with the result, even if it is not reflective of my personal preference.  My opponent allows the ends to justify the use of less-than-just means, such as relying on the Eugenics Study in his opposition to the Abenaki petition for federal tribal recognition, or being selective and skewed in choosing the witness statements on which he relied and boldly quoted from in the report on the Robert Woodward shooting, or disclosing intimate details about the non-criminal behavior of Catholic priests who were the subject of child abuse investigations.  Regardless of the sentiments behind each of these examples, they each demonstrate a lack of regard for human dignity which undermines the process of justice for all of us.

            Gender

            Outside of the all-female ticket of the Vermont Grassroots Party, of the fifteen major candidates running for state-wide office this year, only three are female — Democratic incumbents Deb Markowitz and Liz Ready, and myself.  Standing alone, being female doesn’t make me a better lawyer or a better potential Attorney General.  But our state government would be stronger and more balanced, and the citizens of our state more equitably represented, were there more women serving in state-wide offices.  As a woman, as a mother, I naturally have a different perspective, a different philosophy about many issues, and different priorities than most men do. 

2.  What is the greatest challenge of public service?

            The first of the two greatest challenges of public service is effecting justice in the face of controversy and emotional situations.  You have to be willing to accept end results you may not like, as long as the process is fair.  Justice equitably applies the rules of process to all people and all parties.  The second of the two greatest challenges of public service is securing public participation.  Ordinarily, less than 50% of the eligible voters in Vermont vote — and the turnout in Vermont is higher than most states.  When the winning candidates are elected by 25% or less of the state’s adult population, were are living in an oligarchy - not a democracy.

3.  What is the most important issue facing the State of Vermont?

            The most important issue facing the State of Vermont today is the sense of hopelessness and disenfranchisement among our youth.   Our youth can’t afford to go to college in Vermont.  There is no ability to take over the farm business when the property taxes make the land unaffordable; there is no secure, life-long, good-paying factory position waiting when the machine shops are sitting empty and the buildings collapsing before new tenants can be found. 

4.  What advice would you give someone who was thinking about entering public service?

            A.  Read “Plunkett of Tammany Hall”; see below.

            B.  See something of life first; get yourself to the point that you have something substantive to give, not just the urge to hold a title or public position. 

            C.  Get to know people of every walk and creed of life.  As Plunkitt said, study human nature, and act accordingly.

            D.  Honestly care.

5. What is your favorite political book?

Although I refer constantly to the collection of Theodore Roosevelt essays and speeches on the progressive movement entitled “Social Justice and Popular Rule”, Arno Press, New York, 1974, my favorite political book is “Plunkitt of Tammany Hall: A Series of Very Plain Talks on Very Practical Politics” by William L. Riordan, Dutton Press, 1963. 

George Washington Plunkitt was a renowned Tammany ward boss, an icon of the New York Democratic machine of the early twentieth century.  A number of my Irish immigrant ancestors and relatives — the Hickeys, the Kellys — were a part of Plunkitt’s Tammany organization. William Riordan of the New York Post conducted a series of interviews with Plunkitt in his “office”, Graziano’s shoe shine stand in the New York County Courthouse off Foley Square.  The talks include Plunkitt’s well-reasoned distinctions between “good graft and bad graft” and repeated scathing commentaries on the fledgling civil service system.  But most important to me is the portrayal of machine politics as a deeply human establishment, dependent on the interactions between Tammany representatives and the host of humanity populating their districts.  Rather than depend on written political positions and lengthy debates about philosophy, Tammany operatives walked the street, knew every member of their districts personally, and helped the lives of their immigrant and downtrodden neighbors by extending a practical hand holding a job, housing, clothes, English language classes, or whatever was needed.

I’ve edited my favorite Plunkitt essay here:

 

To Hold Your District:

Study Human Nature and Act Accordin’

                                                                        - George Washington Plunkitt

            There’s only one way to hold a district: you must study human nature and act accordin’.  You can’t study human nature in books.  Books is a hindrance more than anything else.  If you have been to college, so much the worse for you.  You’ll have to unlearn all you learned before you can get right down to human nature, and unlearnin’ takes a lot of time.  Some men can never forget what they learned at college.  Such men may get to be district leaders by fluke, but they never last.

            To learn real human nature you have to go among the people, see them and be seen.  I know every man, woman, and child in the Fifteenth District., except them that’s been born this summer — and I know some of them , too.  I know what they like and what they don’t like, what they are strong at and what they are weak in, and I reach them by approachin’ at the right side.

            For instance, here’s how I gather in the young men.  I hear of a young feller that’s proud of his voice, thinks he can sing fine.  I ask him to come around to Washington Hall and join our Glee Club.  He comes and sings, and he’s a follower of Plunkitt for life.  Another young feller gains a reputation as a baseball player in a vacant lot.  I bring him into our baseball club.  That fixes him.  You’ll find him workin’ for my ticket at the polls next election day.  Then there’s the feller that likes rowin’ on the river, the young feller that makes a name as a waltzer on his block, the young feller that’s handy with his dukes — I rope them all in by givin’ them opportunities to show themselves off.  I don’t trouble them with political arguments.  I just study human nature and act accordin’.

                        As to the older votes, I reach them, too.  No, I don’t send them campaign literature.  That’s rot.  People can get all the political stuff they want to read — and a good deal more, too — in the papers.  Who reads speeches, nowadays, anyhow?  It’s bad enough to listen to them.  You ain’t goin’ to gain any votes by stuffin’ the letter boxes with campaign documents.  Like as not you’ll lose votes, for there’s nothin’ a man hates more than to hear the letter carrier ring his bell and go to the letter box expectin’ to find a letter he was lookin’ for, and find only a lot of printed politics.  I met a man this very mornin’ who told me he voted the Democratic State ticket last year just because the Republicans kept crammin’ his letter box with campaign documents.

            What tells in holdin’ your grip on your district is to go right down among the poor families and help them in the different ways they need help.  I’ve got a regular system for this.  If there’s a fire in Ninth, Tenth, or Eleventh Avenue, for example, any hour of the day or night, I’m usually there with some of my election district captains as soon as the fire engines.  If a family is burned out, I don’t ask whether they are Republicans or Democrats, and I don’t refer them to the Charity Organization Society, which would investigate their case in a month or two and decide they were worthy of help about the time they are dead from starvation.  I just get quarters for them, buy clothes for them if their clothes were burned up, and fix them up till they get things runnin’ again.  It’s philanthropy, but it’s politics, too — mighty good politics.  Who can tell how many votes one of these fires brings me?  The poor are the most grateful people in the world, and, let me tell yu, they have more friends in their neighborhoods than the rich have in theirs.

6.  What was your favorite political TV program?

I can’t answer this question — I don’t have a television. 

7.  How did you become involved in the Progressive Party?

I was a lifelong party-line Democrat.  I got involved in political campaign activity around 12 or 13 years old.  We had a local organization called the Smithaven Political Youth Caucus.  We were technically non-partisan, and our goal was to demonstrate that even people too young to vote could have a positive impact on campaigns.  We’d host candidate forums, and submit questionnaires to candidate for local office, then decide what local race to endorse, and spend hours painting and planting signs, looking up phone numbers, and doing other “grunt” work for our endorsed candidate.  We did make a difference.  Because of our socially liberal leanings, our candidates were almost always Democrats.

Once I turned eighteen, I could not only vote, but could find an official place in the Democratic Party.  I sought and received a County Committee seat, and eventually served on the New York State Democratic Committee, and later in a similar slot in Massachusetts after law school.  I managed local and state office campaigns on both a volunteer and paid basis, and managed the local efforts of statewide and national Democratic candidates campaigns.  I was involved in DSA — the labor-based Democratic Socialist Agenda movement within the Democratic Party; I was involved in Young Democrats, and attended Democratic Leadership training school. 

Somewhere along the line, a few things happened.  One is that my conservation ethics, support of sportsmen, and firearms ownership gained me weird looks from some elements of the Democratic party, though by no means from all.  Another is that I noticed that despite all the socially liberal rhetoric, the Democrats were running far fewer women candidates than the Republicans seemed to.  More importantly, the party machine structure in both New York and Massachusetts was such that it had been made perfectly clear to me that no matter how many years I toted signs and manned phone banks, and no matter how bright, dedicated, energetic, or perfect I might be for the job,  I would never be permitted to run for office on the party ticket because I was not part of the right families or groups who were owed various slots.

Finally, and more important still, I took a look around at the Clinton administration and asked myself, “Is this what I’ve been doing all this work for?”  I saw the self-indulgent wealthy circles of Clinton appointees blowing our foreign policy and diplomatic relationships; missing the boat on economic development in the former Soviet Union; and perpetuating a demeaning view of women.  My Democratic party was, in my eyes, no longer the party of the immigrant, the downtrodden, the working man and organized labor, the environment, seniors, children — all the voiceless interests which I’d worked for years believing that the Democratic Party had under their wing.

I left.  It was a painful split.  Being a Democrat was a big part of my self-identity.  I floundered, and wound up uninvolved in partisan or campaign politics for a number of years.  I had moved to Vermont, was building my law practice, active in various environmental and social issues, and raising my daughter. 

I found to my surprise that there was a lot about the moderate Vermont land-based Republican party that I liked.  I greatly admire Barbara Snelling, for instance.  And the concerns of farmers, of sportsmen interested in water quality issues, and Vermont businesses struggling to hold a place in a shifting global economy, were all things I could get behind. At the same time, there were many things about the incumbent Attorney General’s administration I did not like.  I had issue after issue with state agencies in which I believed that the agency personnel were receiving unnecessarily confrontational and defensive legal advice from their departmental AG’s.  AG policies regarding things like serving subpoenas on state personnel or obtaining my clients’ own records from state agencies were changed in ways that cost the taxpayers money and favored form over substance — or justice.  Hearing my great-grandmother Jenny Hickey rolling over in her grave, I announced my intention to seek, by write-in, the Republican nomination for Attorney General.

Bill Sorrell beat me out on the write-in vote and ran once again as both a Democrat and a Republican.  But I had learned that, although I had much in common with that core of agricultural, moderate Republicans, there was a loud minority contingent even within the Vermont Republican party with whom I could not comfortably find myself allied.  I am pro-choice, I oppose the death penalty, and support civil unions and am not morally opposed to homosexuality, and I am not Christian.  While I have many valued Republican friends, I could not commit myself to the Republican party.

Then I met Anthony Pollina.  And I learned of the Vermont Progressives — a new, home-grown, grass-roots, wide array of people from around the state, some of them “drop-outs” from other parties, others “drop-ins” from various social issues or political non-participation.  The more I talked to Anthony, the more I realized how much we had in common on so many issues.  I watched, listened, and learned as the Progressives gained major party status.  I saw farmers, sportsmen, writers, labor leaders, new Vermonters, old Vermonters, and everyone in between finding their way into this new party.  And I saw the new party touting campaign finance reform, universal health care, and advocacy for those people whose voices get lost in the system. 

A life-long fan of Teddy Roosevelt, I saw many parallels between the Vermont Progressive Party, and Roosevelt’s Bull Moose Progressive movement of the nineteen-teens.  TR’s movement was a splinter from the Republican party, in protest of the Republican move into representing big corporate interests.  Roosevelt was a major moving force behind the modern conservation movement, an ardent hunter, a champion of organized labor, and dedicated to rural development and support of farmers and the rural poor.  He was a valiant soldier who also won the Nobel Peace Prize for averting a devastating world war.  He believed in good health, strong family values, hard work, time to play, and a true democracy which represents the will of the people, not the monied interests among them.  Vermont Progressives didn’t see themselves as part of the Bull Moose party — but I knew that at heart, they were.

Vermont had a proud history of independence — including political independence.  Most Vermonters split their tickets, and don’t stick with a straight party line, selecting their state legislators, state wide candidates, and Congressional representatives based on individual factors.  This is clear if you take a look at the fact that the legislature is usually Republican, the state-wide offices usually Democrat, and Bernie Sanders wins by unreachable margins as an ex-Socialist independent.

So when I decided to launch this timely bid for the Attorney General’s office, my choice was between running as an independent or as a Progressive.    After long hard thought, I committed to running on the Progressive ticket, and to lending my support, time, skills, and political party experience to building this unique new Vermont party.  Not being a part of the two standard national political parties still gives me the independence and freedom from party obligations which I believe is appropriate to the office of Attorney General, the independently-elected top lawyer for the people of Vermont.  But being a Progressive gives me the opportunity to speak about Progressive values and the Progressive platform, to help other Progressive candidates around the state, and to be a part of this exciting new Progressive movement for the 21st century.  No matter the outcome of this election, I look forward to working on building the Progressive party in the coming years.

8.  Who are your political mentors?  What are some of your favorite political quotes?   

HUBERT HUMPHREY.   Perhaps it’s not accurate to describe Hubert Humphrey as a political mentor.  But the first political memory in my life was sitting on my dad’s shoulders in the J.C.Penney parking lot as Hubert Humphrey’s helicopter landed, chanting Give me that vote for Hubert Humphrey, He’s good for You and Me. 

THOMAS JEFFERSON AND THEODORE ROOSEVELT.  I’ve always summed up my political philosophies by describing myself as a Jeffersonian Democrat and a (T.) Roosevelt Republican.  By this I would mean to point to Jefferson’s emphasis on public education (the volume entitled The Crusade Against Ignorance is quite informative on this point); the Bill of Rights; his positions on state rights and federalism , as reflected in the Federalist Papers; and his ever-inquiring, renaissance character, with his perpetual interest in literature, art, gardening, science, travel, and exploration.  I most admire Teddy Roosevelt’s abiding belief in family, in conservation, in the Progressive movement, in true democracy and keeping big money out of politics, and both his leadership in time of war and his extraordinary ability to bring about peace — walk softly, and carry a big stick, as he said.  

ROBERT KENNEDY.  Bobby Kennedy demonstrated how the law can be utilized to effect social change.  His efforts in the civil rights movement — not as a community activist or elected as a political leader, but as an Attorney General who advocated for the people of the United States — changed the face of our nation.

WAYNE PROSPECT.  I’m sure you’ve heard of the four gentlemen listed above; I’m just as sure you’ve never heard of Wayne Prospect.  Wayne was the Suffolk County Legislator for whom I was proud to work as an aide for several years.  Together we fought the Shoreham Nuclear Power Plant, wrote the Pine Barrens protection legislation, and fought with pesticide manufacturers over ground water pollution on the east end of Long Island.  Wayne is one of few politicians who, year after year, continued to have the guts to do what he felt was right and stand up and fight where others folded -- including on those issues personally dear to him, but where he split with his Democratic party line.  I learned a lot from him. 

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

            - Patrick Henry

Ask not what your country can do for you, but rather ask what you can do for your country.

            - John F. Kennedy

From each according to ability, to each according to need.

There but for the grace of God go I.

Wherever there’s a cop beatin’ some guy,

or a hungry newborn baby cries,

or somebody’s lookin’ for a helpin’ hand,

a decent job or a place to stand,

            beside their campfire’s  where I’ll be,

            look in their eyes, ma, you’ll see me.

                        -The Ballad of Tom Jones

The gods of the hills are not the gods of the valleys.

                        -Ethan Allen 

 

9.   Will the U.S. invade Iraq by December 2002?  Should they invade

            I already lost the bet on this one.  I thought we’d be on the ground in Iraq by mid-November, just in time for the election.  Accounting for the delays in seeking Congressional approval and U.N. cooperation, I now suspect that American troops won’t be on the ground in Iraq until March or April.

            I have many close friends and many people who I admire greatly who believe with all their hearts that we need to invade Iraq, quickly, to avoid immanent harm to Americans or others from weapons of mass destruction.  I sympathize with, and respect, their abiding fears and concerns for the future actions of this unstable regime.

            However, I most respectfully disagree that invasion by U.S. troops is the appropriate action.  American foreign policy and diplomatic relations with the middle east and all Islamic nations has been abysmal for at least 12 years or more.  I am not confident that more than a small handful of people in our federal government, at best, have a good understanding of the culture, sentiments, politics, and ideology of the people of the Muslim nations.  And I am certain that few people in the Muslim nations have a realistic understanding of American culture and ideology, since their primary contact with America is through MTV and Playboy magazine (both dutifully, though minimally, censored).  The growing factions of extremely angry anti-Americanism were patently obvious to me as a tourist in India and Pakistan, but they seem to have escaped our diplomatic corps and intelligence agencies.  I can’t say I was surprised that something like 9-11 happened. 

            The post 9-11 question for us to wrestle with is: do we fix the problem, and immediately initiate a vastly improved communications and diplomatic relationships program with the Muslim nations, or do we strike back and seek to oppress the outrage which was perpetuated upon us?  Hitting back with something as definitive and powerful as a ground war against Iraq may make some Americans feel better in the short term, but it will irrevocably eliminate the option of diffusing tensions and establishing meaningful diplomatic relationships with the Muslim Nations for many long years, perhaps decades, to come.  I do not believe we have any rational sense of exactly what nature of powder keg we are about to set off.  I believe invading Iraq will incur an unprecedented wrath upon Israel, despite Israel’s support for the invasion.  I believe invading Iraq will distort our relationship with Saudi Arabia, which in the long run needs to be severely altered, but in the short term will wreak havoc on our oil supplies and prices while we don’t have short-term energy alternatives in place and our economy is already hurting.  And, like the Persian Gulf war, I believe an invasion of Iraq will kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian men, women, and children, even if American armed forces losses are likely to be minimal.

            I’m not a pacifist; I don’t oppose war or acts of violence on a purely moralistic basis.  Such acts are often justified and necessary in defense of one’s self, one’s home or homeland, one’s family or one’s allies.  I believe it proper to intervene militarily to support the rights of occupied and oppressed peoples to their own political self-determination.  I am not convinced that such elements are present here, and I believe the costs may be staggering, and the harms sought to be deferred or eliminated may yet be averted by other means.

10.  What is your view of Juvenile Justice?

            The Court Diversion Program

            The Attorney Generals office is, by statute, in charge of developing and running a court diversion program to keep kids having their first interaction with the criminal justice system out of the courts and out of the custody of the Department of Corrections.  This gives the AG an incredible opportunity to help the young people of our state.  I will start a mentoring system to pair kids with members of the local community, so that instead of a probation officer sitting in judgment of their daily activities, kids will have a chance to learn life skills, volunteer, or develop interests in a trade or business.  And I’ll take the Diversion program out into the schools, coordinating with efforts like the DARE program and with community resource officers to help kids get back on track and stay on track, to develop their own highest human potential.  I don’t want to lock up Vermont’s future and throw away the key.  We need to give our kids goals, skills, tools — and mostly, hope. 

            Heroin Eradication

            Heroin has erupted on the Vermont mediascape in the last year, with at least two dozen of our young citizens dead of heroin overdoses, and countless more in the throes of life-debilitating addiction.  But heroin has been flooding into the state at an ever increasing pace for at least a decade — and in some pockets of the state, it has always existed among small, isolated groups of users.  The first step in heroin eradication is education — not just of the young people who are likely to fall into using it, but of all Vermonters.  Heroin is in fact here, in every town in the state, it is highly addictive, it is highly attractive to kids who are otherwise feeling bored, unneeded, and without a future worth staying clean for, and it is presently cheaper than marijuana to get started on — until the addiction rises to economically unsupportable levels, and a wave of property crimes follows to fund the cravings.  I’ve heard a lot of talk about “gateway drugs” such as marijuana, out of the perception that kids start on a “soft” drug like pot and then work their way up.  I find this to be a leftover point of view from adults for whom a nickel bag of pot had cost $5 back in high school.  Today, marijuana eradication has been so successful that, ironically, a lot of kids start on that cheap, easily available drug — heroin.

            Because of its pervasiveness and the intensity of the addiction it creates, heroin can not be addressed by law enforcement in the same way as drugs like marijuana.  The standard pattern of marijuana enforcement would be to secure a few informants, set up a long program of surveillance, and seek to bust the big supplier, thus stopping the pipeline of supply to the local area.  Outside of the larger suppliers in Chittenden County, heroin doesn’t follow the same distribution patterns in most of Vermont.  Dozens of individual addicts get desperate enough to make a supply run or two to various points in Massachusetts or New York for another batch.  There isn’t one guy with a fedora and a trench coat and a truckload, making deliveries.  And while long-term surveillance goes on looking for such a character, dozens more Vermont kids become addicts, or die from the drug.

            Heroin eradication in Vermont is going to take strong community policing tactics.  Every single sale is going to have to be stopped and charged at every turn to keep new kids from falling into the pit of heroin addiction.  Local cops working with young people usually know who is doing drugs, and when something has changed in the local drug environment.  We need to give our full support to the local police officers who get to know the kids in the schools and on the streets of our communities.  The arrests made in this type of heroin enforcement won’t make the papers as another huge drug bust, but they will stop more Vermont kids from becoming addicts, and will drive heroin out of the state.  Instead of locking our kids behind bars, we can get them back on the street — to be the next generation of responsible Vermont citizens.

11.  How will you use your environmental experience to enforce the laws?

            I have a master’s degree in environmental law.  I have worked as a land use planner, and as legal counsel to numerous land trusts and environmental organizations.  I know that our environment is not merely an aesthetic concern, it is of vital economic importance to Vermont.  Our top tourist industry for dollars generated is hunting and fishing.  Our fishing and boating related businesses — bait shops, guide services, charter boats — have been severely hurt by the poor quality of Vermont’s waterways.  A significant portion of our lakes, rivers, and streams do not meet fishable/swimmable water quality standards.  Drought conditions over the last few years has only exacerbated this situation. 

            I will immediately commence a program to enforce the 1,000 un enforced storm water permits, and to bring our new watershed permitting system into line with federal standards.  I will work with out state agencies to remove or reconfigure the half-dozen unlicensed dams which are generating utility company profits at the cost of our fisheries and water quality.  Peterson Dam — operating without a license for over 12 years, generating less than 1% of Vermont’s electrical power, and costing millions per year in devastated estuarine habitat and lake sturgeon fishery income — has got to come down.  Our poor water quality is a severe economic drain for Vermont.  The excuse that it might cost jobs to try to enforce environmental laws is hogwash — we are in fact losing jobs, and independently owned, natural resource based sustainable small businesses, by destroying our waterways.  And we’re mortgaging our health and our future to boot.

12.  How will you fight predatory lending

            Vermont citizens of limited means or who are experiencing financial difficulty are finding themselves the victims of predatory lenders.  Banks, credit card companies, and mortgage companies, many of them operating over the internet, offer Vermont residents credit at usurious rates and at terms that violate Vermont law.  At a time of economic downturn, the effects of these sharp lending practices are particularly painful to struggling Vermont families. 

            In my law practice, I have seen case after case of first time homebuyers, particularly those with credit problems or the financial burdens of a young family, turning to internet-based mortgage companies in the hope of getting out of an expensive rental and into their own home. These mortgage companies charge outrageous interest rates, tack on thousands of dollars in processing fees, and include provisions in their contracts which preclude the home buyer from paying off their mortgage faster or from refinancing once their credit becomes re-established.  Many of the contracts state that they are subject to laws of states other than Vermont, and the closing process often occurs in New Hampshire or simply through the mail. 

            Like many other instances of internet fraud, one of the chief difficulties in prosecuting predatory internet lenders is locating the business itself and establishing legal jurisdiction over it.   Upon taking office as Attorney General, I will take immediate action to find and prosecute the mortgage companies who offer Vermont’s young families real estate purchase loans over the internet under terms that violate Vermont law.  This will require a fresh approach to investigation and prosecution.  I intend to bring onto the Attorney General staff a different kind of investigator, a “computer whiz” rather than a traditional crime scene investigator, who can dedicate him or herself to tracking down the sources of internet fraud and crime.

            It may surprise many Vermonters to learn that our state does not have a statute setting a maximum interest rate for credit cards.  The citizens of our state who have had financial bad times, who lack credit or have been through bankruptcy, or who are in desperate need of a line of credit for things like medical bills, are sitting ducks for usurious credit card companies.  Last year, a friend of mine who has a Spanish-sounding surname received a credit card offer in the mail, entirely written in Spanish, offering a credit card to persons of hispanic or latino heritage who may not be comfortable dealing with an English-speaking lender.  The offered interest rate on this card was over 30%. 

            As Attorney General, I will call on the legislature to work with me to set reasonable caps on credit card interest rates in Vermont.  Our state needs to find effective, lasting solutions to the problems of affordable housing and universal, affordable health care — but leaving our state citizens to fund their housing and medical bills under terms which will effectively enslave them to predatory lenders is unconscionable.  It also just further exacerbates the problem of the drain of economic resources out of our state.  I will prosecute predatory lenders, work diligently with our legislature to establish better terms for Vermont borrowers and address the basic needs of our citizens which lead to oppressive personal debts, and open a dialogue with Vermont’s banks and lending institutions to keep our economic resources in our state.

13.       Being an NRA member, what is your view of the recent sniper in D.C.?  Will this allow gun control advocates to gain an upper hand in the debate?

            Persons who use a gun against fellow American citizens, other than in defense of themselves, their homes or families, or another in of such protection, have breached the trust of all of us, and need must face severe criminal consequences.  Long before the existence of firearms, however, there were serial killers, and history from Jack the Ripper to the people who flew skyjacked airplanes into the Twin Towers has shown that laws will not stop someone hell-bent on murder.  If the death penalty was not a sufficient deterrent for the D.C. sniper, I doubt a new gun law would have been.

            Firearms are easy to obtain around the world through criminal, black market, and open transactions.  Firearms and explosives are both extremely easy to manufacture using common materials and tools.  No law would stop the person intent on obtaining either such device.

            But stopping crime is not the primary purpose of gun control, just as hunting is not the primary purpose of the right to bear arms.  Firearms ownership is a civil right of free citizens, and gun control is social control designed to shift power to governmental forces and away from citizens.  I have written extensively on this subject and would ask you to read the essay I’ve posted on my website, www.hill4ag.org, regarding firearms as a civil right. 

            Unfortunately, many well-meaning citizens, out of the fear generated by this serial killer who uses a gun as his tool of death, will seek to ban more guns, thinking this will keep them safe from the next such act of depravity.  I hate to see people give up liberty and the power of citizenship for the illusion of a moment’s security. And illusion it is, for crime will always be among us at some level, and it’s next path is unpredictable.  Police can’t keep the crime from your door; they are generally called after a crime has occurred.  An armed, self-confident citizenry is the best possible defense against such events, and against events even worse — like the loss of our status as free Americans to a ever more powerful centralized government.

14.       Your favorite Teddy Roosevelt quote?

“We Progressives test the worth of all men and all measures by asking how they contribute to the welfare of the men, women, and children of whom this nation is composed.”  Feb. 21, 1912.

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